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Post by cripes on Oct 17, 2007 13:54:19 GMT -5
Kinda like Idiot Wind in '92....we were digging the hell out of it then, not realizing that boby was upsinging 80% of the time.
Sneaky butthole.
I did listen to the 4th St nick posted and I too was reminded of the Baby Blue from '05.
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Post by dino on Oct 17, 2007 14:43:26 GMT -5
in 1991 i often thought, god this must be the best dylan show ever
now i feel ashamed even to admit i was there
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Post by owen on Oct 17, 2007 16:18:20 GMT -5
could well be. the melody of that last phrase in every verse is certainly ripped off from somewhere. sounds like jeff buckley's version of hallelujah - hallelujaaaah
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Post by manho on Oct 17, 2007 16:48:13 GMT -5
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Post by owen on Oct 17, 2007 16:52:44 GMT -5
thanks
completely knocks out bobs version
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Post by Poke on Oct 18, 2007 13:04:42 GMT -5
re: Idiot Wind 92, Isle of Wight, 1991
Wide chasm between these things and Dylan07.
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Post by cripes on Oct 18, 2007 13:09:11 GMT -5
It would be nice to think that boby is now using one of his fake voices (think JWH/Nashville Skyline/Isle of Wight/'74 tour) these days.
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Post by Poke on Oct 18, 2007 13:25:31 GMT -5
Yeah, ignorance is bliss.
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Post by manho on Oct 18, 2007 15:13:36 GMT -5
all boby's voices are false. he started out imitating guthrie and has been trapped in the style for 45 years. he tried once to sing in his real voice but everybody laughed at him so he went back to woody. there was a funny moment during the recording of "we are the world" when, after boby had sung his little section, stevie wonder (or someone similar) asked him to sing it again in a voice "more like dylan".
it's his tragedy, really. it's what separates him from reality.
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Post by dino on Oct 18, 2007 15:23:14 GMT -5
mmm with all the respect, i do believe that he got his own real voice at least once, the Desire sessions - no woody imitator (he would be ramblin' jack imitator, tho), no drugs voice, no i want-to-be-hank williams voice, no donald duck voice, no look mama i'm the ghost of howlin' wolf voice...
just him
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Post by cripes on Oct 18, 2007 15:25:23 GMT -5
The Desire voice was nice...kinda Mae West.
I'd say 80-81 was the most umm...unfake voice.
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Post by manho on Oct 18, 2007 15:47:09 GMT -5
don't get me wrong, i love all the fake voices (up to the wolfman). i don't think the desire voice is any more real than any other, tho. i'd say only the nashville skyline voice is his own.
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Post by hobo on Oct 18, 2007 16:40:30 GMT -5
The new Murray Lerner film about Dylan at Newport is the most enjoyable Dylan flick in ages. Lots of cool stuff
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Post by cripes on Oct 18, 2007 17:04:38 GMT -5
You guys have it already...or didja see it in a movie house?
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Post by manho on Oct 18, 2007 17:16:31 GMT -5
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Post by manho on Oct 18, 2007 17:18:39 GMT -5
apparently they showed the murray lerner film on english tv on saturday evening.
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Post by owen on Oct 18, 2007 17:20:36 GMT -5
most of bob's stuff is fake.
he feels most at home singing ditties like if not for you or winterlude
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Post by manho on Oct 18, 2007 17:32:49 GMT -5
i haven't heard that newport album for about 30 years but i can still remember every song on it (mainly cos at the time i only had about 10 albums and would play each one of them hundreds of times). i remember the intro from pete seeger for frank proffitt. it was something like: "i'm gonna bring frank proffitt up here now. he's gonna sing some ozark mountain (or some such place) music for you. just give him a minute while he tunes up his three string banjo (off key banjo noises in background), it's his own homemade banjo..."
we had many a good laff listening to old frank at the time.
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Post by cripes on Oct 18, 2007 17:39:43 GMT -5
I have this one: Fave tune--I Love Your Dog, I Love My Dog by The Freedom Singers
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Post by bart on Oct 18, 2007 22:07:02 GMT -5
My friend gave me his pre-release copy of the Lerner film. Great, great, great stuff!
My only complaints are that they left off "Phantom Engineer" from the 1965 set, the howling-dog duets with Joanie, and Johnny Cash's out-of-tune bass player (thank God that clip is mercifully brief!). Aside from that...wow! Especially the never-even-knew-about-it-before workshop set from '65.
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