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Post by david on Apr 1, 2008 19:01:59 GMT -5
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Post by cripes on Apr 1, 2008 20:08:17 GMT -5
Wiki sez:
"Suspicion" is a hit song written written by Italian lyricists Ernesto and B.G. de Curtis in 1911 with the English lyrics written by Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman. They originally rewrote it for Elvis Presley at the suggestion of his manager who liked the tune.
First released on the 'Pot Luck' LP.
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Post by david on Apr 1, 2008 21:33:55 GMT -5
1962, eh? It's weird Elvis (or maybe Col. Tom) didn't see it as a single.
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Post by manho on Apr 2, 2008 12:06:43 GMT -5
interesting stuff about that suspicion. it was written by the guy who wrote the original of elvis's surrender (torna a surriento). surriento is one of the most famous italian - neopolitan, really - songs ever written. elvis had already covered another napolitano song, it's now or never (o solo mio), so i suspect they didn't want to overegg the zabaglione with another wop single. everyone was covering de curtis at the time. here's jerry vale with non ti scordar di me: www.sendspace.com/file/vvmtmf |
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Post by david on Apr 2, 2008 19:02:50 GMT -5
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Post by david on Apr 2, 2008 19:35:53 GMT -5
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Post by cripes on Apr 2, 2008 23:51:42 GMT -5
I'm such a dork that I have this picture sleeve and record:  Not a bad week....I notice a couple of Writing Forum faves there. In the states we had The We Five's version of You Were On My Mind. |
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Post by david on Apr 3, 2008 5:50:12 GMT -5
I think We Five covered the song about a year later. According to Ian Tyson, he wrote his first song (Four Strong Winds) after this guy living down the hall from him in Greenwich Village played him a new song he wrote called Blowin' In the Wind and he figured he could write that sort of shit too. Most of the Ian & Sylvia songs were written by Ian, but You Were On My Mind was the first song (and one of the few good ones) written by Sylvia Fricker. Their other claim to fame these days, of course, is being the inspiration for Mitch and Mickey . . .
I remember talking about Move Over, Darling at the WF, but what was the other one? This Boy?
Was My Boy Lollipop the first international hit out of Jamaica?
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Post by manho on Apr 3, 2008 5:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by manho on Apr 3, 2008 5:54:15 GMT -5
"what was the other one?"
i think we had a little viva las vegas moment.
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Post by david on Apr 3, 2008 5:55:17 GMT -5
That's the Pied Piper guy, isn't it? Great dorky video there . . .
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Post by david on Apr 3, 2008 5:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by david on Apr 3, 2008 7:52:55 GMT -5
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Post by cripes on Apr 3, 2008 11:04:06 GMT -5
B.B. King - How Blue Can You Get?
B.B. King charted in '64? Do you get these from the Top 30? Top 100?
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Post by david on Apr 3, 2008 11:19:03 GMT -5
For Canada and the U.K., I'm using Top 50; for U.S., it's Top 100. I was thinking of sticking to the Top 20, but a lot of the more interesting stuff is in the bottom half of the charts, a fair number of which were Top 10 hits on the r&b and country charts, which I don't have.
I'll check later to see how high B.B. got with this single.
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Post by cripes on Apr 3, 2008 12:15:54 GMT -5
That Ian & Sylvia 'You Were On My Mind' lacks the cool 'whoa whoa' dynamic that the We Five got.
Was My Boy Lollipop the first international hit out of Jamaica?
Not my field of expertise--I do remember when I started hearing the term 'ska' in the early eighties people would point to 'My Boy Lolipop' as an example of the genre. I don't see much correlation between Lolipop and all that Ay yi yi English Beat shit, but there you go.
eta--I guess there is a rhythmic similarity there....
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Post by david on Apr 3, 2008 12:40:48 GMT -5
>That Ian & Sylvia 'You Were On My Mind' lacks the cool 'whoa whoa' dynamic that the We Five got.
In Canada, them's fighting words. Like, it's okay to prefer Elvis doing Early Morning Rain to Gordon Lightfoot. That just means your ears work. But the We Five? Weren't they from Australia or some other backward place? I'll agree they were better than Crispian St. Peters though . . .
I don't really know the difference between ska, bluebeat and reggae, except that reggae music has a lot of references to Jah. I just can't think of any hit song that came out of Jamaica before it. It might be fun to have the Jamaican charts, except that I guess everybody there would be too busy lying around smoking dope to actually post any of the songs on Youtube, so what would be the point?
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Post by cripes on Apr 3, 2008 13:27:07 GMT -5
Weren't they from Australia or some other backward place?
You're thinking of The Seekers. The We's hail from San Francisco.
In Canada, them's fighting words
How would Quebecers and San Franciscans feud? Finger wagging and handkerchiefs? I think the We Five's version is sparklier.
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Post by manho on Apr 3, 2008 14:11:03 GMT -5
"Was My Boy Lollipop the first international hit out of Jamaica?" the simple answer to this question is yes. unless you count english "comedy performers" parodying calypso music:  or belafonte, or stan freberg... * shit, i spelt stan freberg wrong even after checking on google before posting. i do the same with alun grinsberk too. it's stronger than me. am an anti-seemite? |
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Post by manho on Apr 3, 2008 14:31:13 GMT -5
this might explain why the millie song doesn't sound much like reggae:  |
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