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Post by manho on Nov 9, 2013 12:27:25 GMT -5
point of possible interest. in the section on the english monetary system lewisohn gives two possible pronunciations of the word for the three pence coin: threepence or thruppence. actually, in liverpool the pronunciation would be thrippence. or if your accent was really strong thri'mce, with a glottal stop in place of the pp, an m in place of the n and the second e left out.
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Post by manho on Nov 9, 2013 12:13:12 GMT -5
the first thing the book does is put an end to the debate about the social class of lennon. both sides of his family were 100% working class (based on their jobs you could even say lower working class). the first person to do a bit of social climbing was mimi who married a guy with a little business and a bit of money (but not enough to prevent him having to take menial jobs like cleaning trams late in his life to make ends meet). what lewisohn doesn't explain is why the stanley family considered itself superior to the lennons. it comes down to protestant and catholic. the stanleys were protestant and the lennons catholic. at that time in liverpool hatred of catholics by working class protestants was very strong. mimi sounds very much like a snob and a bigot. she imagined herself middle class but it was all superficial. lennon, of course went to a very good grammar school where he mingled with middle class kids and probably picked up his accent there. but he won his place at the school on merit, passing the state exam at the age of 11.
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Post by manho on Oct 20, 2013 13:20:11 GMT -5
"Ringo doesn't actually join until around page 700"
hehehe... now that's what you call a good read!
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Post by manho on Oct 13, 2013 14:01:59 GMT -5
the 3,864 page version?
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Post by manho on Oct 9, 2013 3:10:30 GMT -5
there seems to be a new wave of beatles projects hitting the beach at the moment: movies, documentaries, books galore. one story that hasn't been picked up on, though, would make the best beatles film, in my opinion. the "george visits america before the group makes it over there" story.
think about it. when george visits this little town he's there for a month or so and he's hanging around with young musicians and becoming a local personality. and the beatles are huge in england. he has the first three singles with him and maybe also the first album! so the hip guys in this little town are being seriously introduced to the group months before the rest of the country. bit like a small town in england having elvis (with his sun studios 78s) stay for a month in 1954.
what a great movie that would make.
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Post by manho on Oct 6, 2013 3:33:35 GMT -5
elvis costello on why he lives in ireland:
"That's why I live in Ireland, because I have a real problem with the undiluted strain of English Tory. It's not conservative with a small 'c' but there's a strain: I believe there is almost a race of people that live in middle England. That they look different, they think different and they are hostile to the rest of us in this country, let alone everybody else"
just goes to show how you can misjudge a person, i always thought it was to benefit from the low tax category for creative artists.
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Post by manho on Sept 12, 2013 15:02:04 GMT -5
i'll tell you a funny story which might just be a parable. my eng lit teacher gave us catcher in the rye to read in the first year of sixth form (this is early mid 60s) and obviously everybody loved it, i think me particularly. i read it twice immediately and then again a couple of times during the year. i loved it so much i put my hand up in class once and asked the prof if salinger had written any other books and he said yeah he had written some other stuff but it wasn't up to the quality of catcher. so i forgot all about it.
then, late 60s, when i was young, idealistic and pretentious, i came across his other stuff in the local library and read it all and got my circle of young, idealistic and pretentious friends to read it all too. many long nights spent discussing the books while playing the white album backwards. oh, how i scoffed silently at the ignorance of my english lit prof. what a buffoon he was, like all teachers, right?
then years later when i was less young, less idealistic and less pretentious i realised that he was right.
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Post by manho on Sept 12, 2013 6:59:52 GMT -5
i know his stuff pretty well and i'd say that fundamentally it comes down to this: catcher is one of the greatest comic novels ever written and in no other book by salinger is there any trace of humour whatsoever. the other stuff is fine if you're young, idealistic and pretentious but if you're over 25 and haven't read it yet i'd say don't bother.
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Post by manho on Sept 8, 2013 16:57:18 GMT -5
odeon cinema, liverpool in 1954, 12 years before dylan played there in 66, and 11 years before he played there in 65:
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