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Post by owen on Oct 2, 2007 15:55:45 GMT -5
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Post by manho on Oct 2, 2007 16:26:21 GMT -5
"There is an acoustic in there, but it's pretty low in the mix. I think the dominate instruments on the track are two electric guitars (one playing the riffs--including that neat little glissando on the verses) and Paul's bass."
i wouldn't be so sure. a gibson jumbo with the right strings and put through an amp sounds pretty much like an electric guitar if you're doing those little licks and chunky downstrokes and not just strumming it folk style.
it was recorded on 17th october 1963 along with the b side, this boy, which was almost totally acoustic. it wouldn't surprise me if they did the guitar parts for hold your hand with the same guitars they were using that day for this boy.
anyway, listening to the song a few times today it's a fucking work of art. a minimalist classic. basically there is no guitar on it at all. it's all bass, harmony and handclaps. mcdonald has all four beatles doing the handclaps. as it should be.
it all went downhill after this. including hard day's night.
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Post by owen on Oct 2, 2007 17:26:18 GMT -5
there is nothing like it the first time you hear it. like a bomb going off. even more so than rolling stone.
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Post by manho on Oct 2, 2007 17:58:08 GMT -5
"it's all bass, harmony and handclaps"
forget to mention the drums. sorry, ritchie.
the stones and the who had great ones but maybe the beatles had the greatest rhythm section in the history of popular music.
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Post by manho on Oct 2, 2007 18:07:56 GMT -5
has anybody got an mp3 of the original mono version?
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Post by manho on Oct 2, 2007 18:18:24 GMT -5
it would also be interesting to hear the original american version. has it got that echo effect?
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Post by manho on Oct 2, 2007 18:35:27 GMT -5
here's the version from the new across the universe film: www.sendspace.com/file/fu2h5cit's by someone called T.V. Carpio. not bad. sounds like the version of viva las vegas in the big lebowski. you can't really go wrong covering a beatles number. cos they're all great songs. that's why all the boby projects fail. the songs can only be performed by dylan. cos they're not songs really. they're something, but they're not songs. |
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Post by cripes on Oct 3, 2007 2:30:50 GMT -5
has anybody got an mp3 of the original mono version?
What version are you listening to? I can bung a bunch up if you wanna. You're probably not gonna hear a lot of difference.
The beginning of I Want To Hold Your Hand....were they the first power chords? What a series of singles--Please Please Me, She Loves You and I Want to Hold Your Hand. Those singles were never bettered. Sure there were genius things to follow like Ticket to Ride, but those first ones still have that visceral thing, whereas songs like Rain are more mental.
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Post by manho on Oct 3, 2007 7:05:40 GMT -5
all the mp3s i can get hold of are stereo. could you post a mono uk version and a mono usa version? even the version on "one" is stereo for some reason. paul's idea probablly, so you can hear his bass part better.
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Post by cripes on Oct 3, 2007 10:52:50 GMT -5
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Post by manho on Oct 3, 2007 11:20:50 GMT -5
thanks. that sounds about a thousand times better. here's the stereo version that everybody who isn't a nerd collector listens to: www.sendspace.com/file/0ubns7listen to that technnical fluff at about 6 seconds when the voice comes in. and the separation of the instruments detracts from the power of the sound. bring back mono! |
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Post by owen on Oct 3, 2007 12:58:46 GMT -5
they never bettered the early b-sides either...this boy, ill get you, thank you girl. you can throw in bad to me too.
thank you girl is like a want to hold your hand prototype. pure power. even starts off with the same "oooh"
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Post by cripes on Oct 3, 2007 13:07:00 GMT -5
PS I Love You was a killer B side too--much better than Love Me Do which was basically cowboy crap.
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Post by owen on Oct 3, 2007 13:20:01 GMT -5
love me do has one saving grace - the harmonica playing.
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Post by manho on Oct 3, 2007 13:35:17 GMT -5
now that would be a great idea for a new project: THE ORIGINAL RECORDS: HOW THEY REALLY SOUNDED! they could even throw a free dansette in with every purchase:  |
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Post by cripes on Oct 3, 2007 13:46:52 GMT -5
Memorabia dept--Extremely rare and expensive:  "This is considered by most collectors to be the ultimate piece to own of all commercial Beatles memorabilia. The 4-speed 17-1/2" x 10" x 6" NEMS record player was manufactered in 1964 and only 5000 were made. Very few survived, making it the most sought after item of Beatles memorabilia. So far only one or two mint or near mint units have turned up - the majority that have surfaced are in worn condition". More info here. |
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Post by dino on Oct 3, 2007 14:34:46 GMT -5
i used to have one of those mangia-dischi when i was a kid back in the 60s, record-eater i think it could be in your language
it was funny, more often than not the 45 got stucked inside
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Post by bart on Oct 3, 2007 21:47:17 GMT -5
"Authentic Autographed"
Haw! Haw!
Wish I had me one of those now, though.
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Post by owen on Oct 4, 2007 13:08:31 GMT -5
interesting quote from the Mojo beatles book: "John and George - you'd always see them there in the front watching Tony's [sheridan] every move, you know. They'd copied him. They really did copy a lot of his moves; the way of playing; you know, the stand; and John especially stood just like Tony"  Tony is far right. |
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Post by bart on Oct 4, 2007 20:17:55 GMT -5
That quote s kind of interesting, owen. Who said it? Just downloaded a bootleg that included this version of "I Want to Hold Your Hand." It's supposedly a stereo Australian mix. Don't know about that, but it is quite different from the others (and I still think those are electric guitars). www.sendspace.com/file/umsd7s |
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